Monday, April 13, 2015

Earliest Corinthians Manuscript Discovered, Earliest Epistle To The Romans By 140+ Years [Josh McDowell]

https://youtu.be/wJ5JXDct04Q

Narrator:
There is actually a lot more details as to what was discovered with the new Mark papari, so I want to play this section of this video here where Josh McDowell explains a little bit about the process that they used and what are some of the texts that they discovered.  It's really fascinating.
Josh:
This is the first day that I can show you this publicly.  Here's those masks: look at that...
[0:30]That would fit over the head.  All the paint you see there, girls, is actually gold.
Now, in a little bit I'm going to show you how we wash that gold right down the sink.

[0:42] Show the other one that goes with it...
In that mask are manuscripts.  you say what?? Oh yeah, classical, biblical, old testament, New Testament.
Why? Well, they had professional people at the morgues, and they would go out, when they had a... they would go out into  the community, into the trash to homes, into the businesses, and they would collect manuscripts.
[1:14]
Some of it was just town meetings, statistics, anything like that that was of manuscript form that was on papyrus.
And then they would take, and the way we would understand it, they would use it as "paper mache".
They would make these, you can almost say it is "papari mache".  It's paper mache done with paparus.
[1:36]
and they would do four manuscripts, a layer of silk, another four manuscrpts, and a layer of silk
[1:40]
Now here is how you know the dating, for one:  These masks were only done from 150 BC to 125 AD.
So you realize, any manuscripts in there are the oldest ever seen by human eyes?
That's the first time in 2000 years human eyes have seen these manuscripts.
[2:08]
It was in here that was discovered: Mark, the oldest ever discovered, back to the first century.
Before then it was 120 to 142, the John Ryland papyri.
[2:18]
Now, what you do, is you take these masks, scholars die when they hear it, but we own them, so we can do it,
we take these manuscripts, we soak them in water..!  There is a process we use with huge microwaves to do it,
but it's not quite as good.
We put it down into water, can you put it up here too?
[2:39]
[mask in sink]
We put it down into water at a certain temperature, and you can only use Palmolive soap--the rest will start to destroy the manuscripts--Palmolive soap won't.
[2:52]
And you start massaging it for about 30 to 40 minutes.
You pull it out, and wring it out..these things are literally worth millions!
And you put it back in for about 30 to 40 minutes, and you pull it out, and this is what it will look like, just like a gob, it looks like a cattle.. a cow's head.
But that's all papyrus manuscripts, folks. Over 2000 years old.
And you start pulling it apart.  You say "what??". yeah.
They are layered on top of each other. you start pulling them apart..keep going.
See, most scholars have never touched a manuscript, you have to have glove on and everything... here we just wash them,
and hold them in our hands.  We don't
 even make you wash your hands before.
[3:39]
See this is a manuscript right there.
A manuscript, by definition, is not an entire book.
It's a portion of a book.  It can be just a little piece, to... we have one now that's 38 pages on Corinthians.  Probably a greater discovery than the dead sea scrolls.
And, keep going...
[3:56]
Narrator:
Wow, did you just hear that? A whole..practically a whole scroll on Corinthians, he says.  A greater discovery than the dead sea scrolls.
I imagine it is.  Wow.
When we see that, it's going to be incredible.
[4:12]
This is all.., now, see my  hand in the right hand [corner]... that's a pair of tweezers
And you take those tweezers and you start to pull those layers of manuscripts off.
I was so scared the first time I did it.  It was last January.  Or no, it was a little bit before then
[4:34]
"what if you tear it"? they said, "well, then you tear it.".  Since we own it, it's OK.

So you pull the manuscripts off.
[4:45]
See, that in the center is red-lettered.
That's a very rare discovery.  It's called a red-lettered Greek New Testament.
There are some of those big red letters were put across to identify it and everything.
Keep going here...
Now this here.. I'm down [there] and we have three classical scholars brought in because I'm not a classical scholar.
And they were there to help me to understand what we were doing.
[5:08]
So I called one of them over and I said, "I don't know... what do you think this is?"

[5:11]
He says, "Josh, there is another layer underneath."
"No there isn't"
"Josh, another layer".
So we soaked it in water just for a while, and start peeling it off  That there is the oldest copy of the book of Romans by 125 years ever discovered.
[5:30]
Shots a hole in every liberal theology about Romans and when it was written and everything.
[5:36]
Narrator:
Yep, say bye-bye to higher criticism.
That's absolutely incredible right there, what he just said.
A hundred and some-odd years greater than the existing book of Romans we have.
Incredible!
The Lord is good!
He is doing marvelous things!
Keep listening:
[5:57]
It's incredible, and now I was so thankful,I mean,
if you're a scholar (and I am not), but if you are a scholar and you discover one manuscript like and that your name is put on it,
that makes your entire career--no! it literally is what you call a career maker.
Any one of these manuscripts is a career maker.
[6:19]
And the top scholar in the world was in my office the other day, and he brought in some new discoveries to look at and we're planning on doing two more of these masks December 5th and 6th
and he said, "Josh, I hate to say this, to you, but in the last mask, we broke your record.
We took it back another 25 years.  The book of Romans. wow!  Folks, do you realize what this means for the word of God?
[6:43]
It was hidden beneath another layer!
And then I'm doing this and I come across this one and it is very clear and well-done
and there were numbers between the two lines down here. So I call over this one scholar
and I say, you know, I'm not quite sure what this means, and he says haaaah!
You have just uncovered the first ever book one, page one of the Iliad by Homer.
And the first number said what book it was and the second said what page.
Folks, that's like dying and going to heaven.
[7:15]
And then, just keep going to the manuscripts here.
These are all out of one manuscript.  Just keep going. Look at that!
This is incredible.  17 in six hours uncovered.
These are just biblical manuscripts.
and many  other 30 some total manuscripts of the Iliad, and Homer, Sappho, some of you know the writer Sappho.
[7:50]
See there, how it just peels off.  That's my finger underneath the one on the left there.
And you just peel them away.
[7:52]
Narrator:
You remember, some of you might have seen the debate between Wallace and Ehrman, and Wallace was saying that these discoveries had come to light, and Ehrman was kind of just sitting there wondering.
And since Bart Ehrman is probably the most popular higher critic of the day,
it's going to be really interesting to see what he says now.
Hopefully his doubts will go away.
[8:21]
Josh:
And then of course we put them in between paper towels, you dry it.
and you put it in glass to protect them.
The problem is, you can't ship these things in the mail, they are too valuable.
you have to pay all the expense of someone to fly with them.
You have got to keep someone with them, they are so valuable.
And have them dated and everything by Cambridge and Oxford, which are the top two in the world.
[8:46]
Narrator:

All right, so that's a little tid-bit of some more manuscripts.
The earliest book of Romans.  That's so important because Paul outlines the gospel,
and, you know the book of Romans also is the refutation of roman Catholicism.
The gospel of grace is documented in the book of Romans.
[9:11]
so, again apart from the variants, if there are any in these manuscripts,
time will tell,
[9:19]
but from what they are saying, preliminary,
these are about as good as it gets
[9:25]
right now so we wanted to present this additional data
we're going to put this in our playlist on biblical evidence and facts,
[9:39]
and so we wanted to show you this little clip here
and tell you it's a great time to be alive.
The Bible is being confirmed,
(not that we who have living faith really needed it,)
[9:48]
but there are those again, as we've said,
that have been mind-controlled
by the public school educational brainwashing
[9:58]
which it really what it is, we have to say it honestly and sincerely,
people are being mind-controlled
[10:07]
in public education and it's all come down to us
by liberal higher critic scholars out of Germany after the reformation
[10:13]
 and then this was swallowed, hook, line and sinker throughout the decades
and eventually led to what we have now in our public school education system
where they're taught ungodliness and all kinds of mind-controlling doctrines
[10:30]
to be controlled by evil, wicked men
[10:37]
so we wanted to, again, show you this
until next time, Lord willing, we will see you again.

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Thursday, April 2, 2015

Trinity: Why Do You Call Me "Good"?

Muslims like to bring up the incident where someone called Jesus "good" (here it is):

As Jesus was setting out on a journey, a man ran up, knelt down before Him, and asked Him, “Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?”

Why do you call Me good?” Jesus asked him. 
“No one is good but One, that is, God.
--Mark 10:17-18

What Jesus is saying, then, is that this man was putting Him at the same level as God.
And Jesus is pointing this out.

For Muslims, this means that Jesus does not want to be called good because he is not God.

How should we as Christians say in reply?

What many people overlook is that Jesus taught against praising people, or receiving praise from others.  So what the man did by calling Jesus "good teacher" was contrary to what Jesus taught.
For example, let's read from Matthew's gospel:

“ But don’t you be called ‘Rabbi,’ for one is your teacher, the Christ, and all of you are brothers. Call no man on the earth your father, for one is your Father, he who is in heaven. Neither be called masters, for one is your master, the Christ. But he who is greatest among you will be your servant.  Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.”
--Matt 23:8-12

So when the man addressed Jesus in a way that was contrary to what He taught, that really did require some response by Him.

But here is the real answer to the Muslim claim:  There are several passages that specifically mention that people worshiped Jesus, and in them, we never find that Jesus discourages this.
For example here is the passage where Jesus had healed a blind man on the Sabbath day:

"Jesus heard that they had cast him out, and having found him he said, 
‘Do you believe in the Son of man?’ He answered, ‘And who is he, sir, that I may believe in him?’ Jesus said to him, ‘You have seen him, and it is he who speaks to you.’ He said, ‘Lord, I believe’; and he worshiped him." 
--John 9:35-38

We see on the one hand Jesus teaching against receiving praise,
But on the other hand he allowed others to worship him.
We as disciples of Jesus do not believe that Jesus was a hypocrite,
so our only other explanation for this is that Jesus is,
in fact, God.

Another thing often overlooked is this:

After Jesus lists several commandments, he says:

He said to Him, “Teacher, I have kept all these from my youth.”
--Mark 10:20

In response, Jesus showed this person that his heart was spiritually not in the right place, because his riches were his idol:

“Go, sell all you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow Me.” But he was stunned at this demand, and he went away grieving, because he had many possessions.
--Mark 10:21


This can be found as a video:
http://youtu.be/NmYSj3clQP8